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		<title>By: paramedic science - StartTags.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in. Science Nursing. The ... We are currently looking into developing a paramedic to Registered ...Oxygen Heresy &#124; Street Watch: Notes of a ParamedicThe routine use of high-flow oxygen in uncomplicated MI may result in a greater infarct size and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in. Science Nursing. The &#8230; We are currently looking into developing a paramedic to Registered &#8230;Oxygen Heresy | Street Watch: Notes of a ParamedicThe routine use of high-flow oxygen in uncomplicated MI may result in a greater infarct size and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: medicscribe</title>
		<link>http://medicscribe.com/2009/11/oxygen-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-7960</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.  Great article.  It will be interesting to see whether or not this growing research reaches the street in a meaningful way.

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.  Great article.  It will be interesting to see whether or not this growing research reaches the street in a meaningful way.</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: totwtytr</title>
		<link>http://medicscribe.com/2009/11/oxygen-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-7957</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been on this subject for several years. Or my co workers and medical control staff would say I&#039;ve been ranting about this subject for years. 

We use way too much oxygen. If studies show that we ventilate cardiac arrest patients too rapidly with oxygen, then on strategy might be to decrease the amount of oxygen we use when we ventilate. 

We know that Oxygen not only doesn&#039;t help, but might be harmful to stroke patients, yet most EMTs still persist in giving high concentration Oxygen to them. I&#039;ve developed quite a reputation among the BLS crews for arriving on scenes and directing them to switch out from a non rebreather to a cannula. To the point that some of them are using cannulas routinely now. Plus, I don&#039;t see nurses taking patients off cannulas as I do NRB. 

A lot of the responsibility for this falls on system medical directors and training staff who maintain what I call the &quot;Chicken Soup&quot; approach to some medications. &quot;Can&#039;t hurt, might help.&quot; is the thought process here. Only it can hurt. That and the 1994 revision of the BLS curriculum that determined that BLS (and by extension ALS) patients were too dumb to know how much oxygen a patient might need. 

Yes it&#039;s counter intuitive to not give Oxygen. After all it&#039;s something we are taught to do almost from Day One of EMT training. One of the hardest things to do in medicine, and probably most fields, is unlearn old untruths and replace them with new ones. 

Here, http://tinyurl.com/yeq8h3n is a blog post on the subject I put up in January.

Good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on this subject for several years. Or my co workers and medical control staff would say I&#8217;ve been ranting about this subject for years. </p>
<p>We use way too much oxygen. If studies show that we ventilate cardiac arrest patients too rapidly with oxygen, then on strategy might be to decrease the amount of oxygen we use when we ventilate. </p>
<p>We know that Oxygen not only doesn&#8217;t help, but might be harmful to stroke patients, yet most EMTs still persist in giving high concentration Oxygen to them. I&#8217;ve developed quite a reputation among the BLS crews for arriving on scenes and directing them to switch out from a non rebreather to a cannula. To the point that some of them are using cannulas routinely now. Plus, I don&#8217;t see nurses taking patients off cannulas as I do NRB. </p>
<p>A lot of the responsibility for this falls on system medical directors and training staff who maintain what I call the &#8220;Chicken Soup&#8221; approach to some medications. &#8220;Can&#8217;t hurt, might help.&#8221; is the thought process here. Only it can hurt. That and the 1994 revision of the BLS curriculum that determined that BLS (and by extension ALS) patients were too dumb to know how much oxygen a patient might need. </p>
<p>Yes it&#8217;s counter intuitive to not give Oxygen. After all it&#8217;s something we are taught to do almost from Day One of EMT training. One of the hardest things to do in medicine, and probably most fields, is unlearn old untruths and replace them with new ones. </p>
<p>Here, <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yeq8h3n" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yeq8h3n</a> is a blog post on the subject I put up in January.</p>
<p>Good post.</p>
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		<title>By: medicscribe</title>
		<link>http://medicscribe.com/2009/11/oxygen-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-7853</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the comments.  I agree Europe is ahead of us on the 02 issue.  I read somewhere and will try to find it where they don&#039;t use it routinely on STEMIs, only if the patient is hypoxic.

I also agreed, we definitely need a large scale randomized study looking at 02.  The problem is there isn&#039;t a lot of money to be made proving oxygen is overused.  All the big studies are funded by drug companies or medical device makers trying to prove their products make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the comments.  I agree Europe is ahead of us on the 02 issue.  I read somewhere and will try to find it where they don&#8217;t use it routinely on STEMIs, only if the patient is hypoxic.</p>
<p>I also agreed, we definitely need a large scale randomized study looking at 02.  The problem is there isn&#8217;t a lot of money to be made proving oxygen is overused.  All the big studies are funded by drug companies or medical device makers trying to prove their products make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://medicscribe.com/2009/11/oxygen-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-7852</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear (no science that I&#039;m going to cite, though) that in Europe, folks have been having much better results recuscitating (BVM, I think) with room air as opposed to 100 percent oxygen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear (no science that I&#8217;m going to cite, though) that in Europe, folks have been having much better results recuscitating (BVM, I think) with room air as opposed to 100 percent oxygen.</p>
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