We could give torodol with on-line medical control. The problem was a few medics were giving it inappropriately without calling for orders and other medics were calling for orders in very appropriate situations — 35 year old healthy patient with history of kidney stones having flank pain, and were being turned down, because some doctors felt giving torodol to anyone prehospitally was not a good idea. There is a huge list of contraindications. Consequantly no one was calling in to use it when they had the opportunity for fear of being turned down. While some of our doctors thought it was still a good drug for us to carry, in the interests of consensus, we got rid of it. And now with out increased standing orders for fentanyl and morphine, it really shouldn’t be an issue.